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Beware of Dot Pl Domain Expirations – Uwa┼╝aj na wyga┼Ťni─Öcie domeny kropka Pl

A domain typically enters Redemption about 45 days after its expiration date if it is not renewed or purchased by a 3rd party. However, certain top-level domains may enter redemption status the day after the domain’s expiration date.

Today I go to renew a domain name with the domain extension .pl it expires on the 6th of February and the renewal fee was bumped up by an “internal redemption fee” even though it has not expired. So as you can imagine I phoned Godaddy and they explained that POLAND has a rule that if you do not renew your domains before 14 days of the expiration date they will charge ┬ú45.63 + VAT on top of the price of the domain name because according to them the domain goes into redemption.

Excuse me but am I missing something, redemption should start from the day the domain expires not 14 days before.

“Poland Registry is a bunch of thieves”.

I am now going to let the domain drop completely and notify my other registrar to drop-catch it. No way am I going to pay these scammers a penny more than what the domain is worth.

For the liberty of the Polish scammers, I have translated this post for their benefit.

Polish Translation

Domena zazwyczaj przechodzi do Odkupienia oko┼éo 45 dni po dacie wyga┼Ťni─Öcia, je┼Ťli nie zostanie odnowiona lub zakupiona przez stron─Ö trzeci─ů . Jednak niekt├│re domeny najwy┼╝szego poziomu mog─ů uzyska─ç status wykupu nast─Öpnego dnia po dacie wyga┼Ťni─Öcia domeny.

Dzisiaj id─Ö odnowi─ç nazw─Ö domeny z rozszerzeniem domeny .pl, kt├│ra wygasa 6 lutego, a op┼éata za odnowienie zosta┼éa powi─Ökszona o ÔÇ×op┼éat─Ö za wykup wewn─ÖtrznyÔÇŁ, mimo ┼╝e nie wygas┼éa. Wi─Öc jak mo┼╝esz sobie wyobrazi─ç, zadzwoni┼éam do Godaddy i wyja┼Ťnili mi, ┼╝e POLSKA ma zasad─Ö, ┼╝e je┼Ťli nie odnowisz domeny przed up┼éywem 14 dni od daty wyga┼Ťni─Öcia, do ceny nazwy domeny dolicz─ů ┬ú45.63 + VAT, poniewa┼╝ zgodnie z im domena przechodzi do odkupienia.

Przepraszam, ale czy co┼Ť przegapi┼éam, odkupienie powinno rozpocz─ů─ç si─Ö od dnia wyga┼Ťni─Öcia domeny, a nie 14 dni wcze┼Ťniej.

“Polski Rejestr to banda z┼éodzieiÔÇŁ.

Zamierzam teraz ca┼ékowicie zrezygnowa─ç z domeny i powiadomi─ç mojego drugiego rejestratora, aby j─ů z┼éapa┼é. Nie ma mowy, ┼╝ebym zap┼éaci┼é tym oszustom ani grosza wi─Öcej ni┼╝ jest warta domena.

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UPDATE 02/02/23 – AKTUALIZACJA 02.02.23

I emailed ICANN yesterday and you can view the response below both in English & Polish. I also emailed the Polish Registry (NASKA) similar to the UK version of NOMINET and you can read the response which I have translated. It seems to me that Godaddy is saying this redemption fee has nothing to do with them, ICANN is saying the same and the Polish registry also is saying it has nothing to do with them.

The mind boggles.

ICANN Response Translated into Polish – Odpowied┼║ ICANN przet┼éumaczona na j─Özyk polski

This is Nask’s Response – Oto odpowied┼║ Naska:

Nask Translation into English – Nask T┼éumaczenie na j─Özyk angielski:

Dear Sir/Madam,

I kindly inform you that the entity named “GoDaddy” is not a partner of NASK in the field of .pl domain registration, which can be verified on the list of registrars available at https://dns.pl/lista_rejestratorow and we do not comment on the services it provides.

All questions regarding the concluded contract, domain renewal, and payments should be addressed directly to the domain registrar, whose details can be checked in the whois database at www.dns.pl.

I invite you to familiarize yourself with the .pl domain life cycle, which is available at https://dns.pl/cykl_zycia_domeny_pl – (Which returns a 404-page error).

Life Cycle of .PL Domains – Cykl ┼╝ycia domen .PL:

Useful Links – Przydatne linki

https://www.dns.pl/en/information_on_disputes

https://icannportal.force.com/compliance/s/renewal-redemption

https://uk.godaddy.com/help/about-pl-domains-9268

Moral of the Story – Mora┼é historii

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Avoid buying country code (.PL) domain extensions unless you plan to renew them well in advance, although it cannot be 61 days earlier than expiration or 14 days later of auto-renewal. If auto-renewal fails the domain gets canceled.

Stick with dot com, which I have done, and will sue anyone if my domain Polish version drops and cannot be drop caught by me with a different registrar.

Translated into Polish

Unikaj kupowania rozszerze┼ä domen z kodem kraju (.PL), chyba ┼╝e planujesz odnowi─ç je z du┼╝ym wyprzedzeniem, chocia┼╝ nie mo┼╝e to by─ç 61 dni wcze┼Ťniej ni┼╝ wyga┼Ťni─Öcie lub 14 dni wcze┼Ťniejw sprawie automatycznego odnowienia. Je┼Ťli automatyczne odnawianie si─Ö nie powiedzie, domena zostanie anulowana.

Kup si─Ö dot com, co zrobi┼éam, i pozw─Ö ka┼╝dego, je┼Ťli moja polska wersja domeny spadnie i nie b─Öd─Ö m├│g┼é zosta─ç z┼éapany przez innego rejestratora.

This Saga is not over I will update you when I have more news from Nask – Ta Saga si─Ö nie sko┼äczy┼éa. Poinformuj─Ö Ci─Ö, gdy b─Öd─Ö mia┼é wi─Öcej wiadomo┼Ťci od Nask.

Update 03/02/23

I received an email from Nask today and this is what the representative wrote translated into English:

Madam,

According to the information available in the whois database at www.dns.pl. The domain registry xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.pl is the company: 1API GmbH, Im Oberen Werk 1, 66386 St. Ingbert Germany/Germany, tel: +49.68949396850, e-mail: info@1api.net, and the subscriber is RENATA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxCARDIFF, GB, +xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. NASK, as the .pl domain Registry, does not directly service domains for registrants, which results from the provisions of the Regulations for .pl domain names. Such service is provided only by our partners, appearing on the list available at: https://dns.pl/lista_rejestratorow.

All issues regarding the concluded agreement, including billing/fees, should be clarified between the registrant and the domain registrar. NASK does not impose on partners the fees charged for services provided by them directly to subscribers.

According to the information published in the whois database on the website www.dns.pl, the end of the paid billing period for the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx domain falls on 2023.02.06 19:26:44. (seems a bit of a coincidence my domain disappeared when I gave them the name of the domain, I cannot renew even if I wanted to).

In order to renew a domain, its registrant should follow the procedure of an authorized registrar. If the domain registrant cares about its uninterrupted operation, he should renew it with his registrar before the end of the paid billing period, taking into account the deadlines necessary for posting the payment, etc.

If the subscriber fails to act before the end of the paid billing period, the domain will go into a 30-day “blocked” state (after the end of the billing period), in accordance with the domain life cycle available at: https://www.dns.pl/cykl_zycia_domeny_pl.

In this state, the registrant may renew the domain at the current registrar or transfer it to another NASK partner with simultaneous renewal, provided that he has the auth info code for the domain. Failure to do so will result in releasing the domain to the pool of free domains (after its expiry from the “blocked” status) and making it available for re-registration to all interested parties, on general terms (“first come, first served”).

Again, I would like to inform you that NASK does not cooperate with an entity called “GoDaddy”, which can be verified at https://www.dns.pl/lista_rejestratorow and does not comment on its activities.

Sincerely

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Godaddy Update 03/02/23

Upon going back to see if Nask had dropped the redemption fee, my domain has disappeared. So even if I wanted to renew with the scamming fee I am unable to do so. I will start a UDRP on anyone that registers the domain name as I have the dot com version. I have secured the dot com version of the domain in question but this is not the last NASK will hear from me… I am now going to up the stakes and enforce they give me all the data they have on all my (.PL) domain names, just like I can get all the data of all my (.co.uk) domains by logging into my Nominet account.

Po powrocie, aby sprawdzi─ç, czy Nask zrezygnowa┼é z op┼éaty za wykup, moja domena znikn─Ö┼éa. Wi─Öc nawet gdybym chcia┼éa odnowi─ç z op┼éat─ů za oszustwo, nie mog─Ö tego zrobi─ç. Uruchomi─Ö UDRP na ka┼╝dym, kto zarejestruje nazw─Ö domeny, poniewa┼╝ mam wersj─Ö dot com. Zabezpieczy┼éam wersj─Ö dot com domeny, o kt├│rej mowa, ale to nie jest ostatnia wiadomo┼Ť─ç, jak─ů NASK ode mnie otrzymaÔÇŽ Teraz podnios─Ö stawk─Ö i wymu┼Ť, aby przekazali mi wszystkie dane, kt├│re maj─ů na wszystkich moich (.PL ) nazw domen, tak jak mog─Ö uzyska─ç wszystkie dane wszystkich moich domen (.co.uk), loguj─ůc si─Ö na moje konto Nominet.

Godaddy Update 04/02/23

I headed back to Godaddy today and for some strange reason, the domain found itself back in my account. Could it be a coincidence that I have connected with most of the staff in Nask on LinkedIn? Well, the redemption fee is still there and I guess I will just have to drop the domain and register it once it becomes available.

Wr├│ci┼éam dzisiaj do Godaddy iz jakiego┼Ť dziwnego powodu domena znalaz┼éa si─Ö z powrotem na moim koncie. Czy to przypadek, ┼╝e z wi─Ökszo┼Ťci─ů pracownik├│w Nask po┼é─ůczya┼éam si─Ö na LinkedIn? C├│┼╝, op┼éata za wykup nadal obowi─ůzuje i chyba b─Öd─Ö musia┼éa po prostu zrezygnowa─ç z domeny i zarejestrowa─ç j─ů, gdy tylko stanie si─Ö dost─Öpna.

One thing I am glad about my article is the first search result on the first page of all search engines in a matter of a few days. This shows how good I am with my SEO and marketing.

Jedna rzecz, z kt├│rej ciesz─Ö si─Ö z mojego artyku┼éu, to pierwszy wynik wyszukiwania na pierwszej stronie wszystkich wyszukiwarek w ci─ůgu kilku dni. To pokazuje, jak dobra jestem w SEO i marketingu.

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